Taylor Swift is Better and More Popular than Beyonce and Rihanna

Taylor Swift becomes the first artist in music history to claim ENTIRE Top 10 on the Billboard Hot 100. Queen B or RiRi has never done that which means, Taylor is better than B and Ri. Beyonce could never pull something like this off, hell Beyonce can barely spell the word Billboard. She has passed Drake also.

Taylor is the Greatest Artist of all time.

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by Anonymousreply 63November 2, 2022 10:50 PM

[quote] Taylor Swift is Better than Beyonce and Rihanna

that bar is so low it's literaly undergroung

by Anonymousreply 1November 1, 2022 1:53 AM

She is musically gifted, beyond her pleasant voice. More a prodigy so it's understandable why she's more popular. I still wish she'd disappear with the other two.

by Anonymousreply 2November 1, 2022 1:55 AM

[quote] Taylor is the Greatest Artist of all time.

Well if YOU say so!

by Anonymousreply 3November 1, 2022 1:55 AM

R1 bitch how many top 10 billboard hit have u got?

by Anonymousreply 4November 1, 2022 1:55 AM

[quote] top 10 billboard hit

don't make a "great artist" honey, somewhere, in a parrallel world to which you obviously have no access, there 's real music, and real artists

by Anonymousreply 5November 1, 2022 1:57 AM

Say what you will, having all ten of the top ten is a pretty astounding achievement.

You have to respect her for achieving something like that whether you like her music or not.

by Anonymousreply 6November 1, 2022 1:58 AM

Taylor is an overhyped cunt who is nothing more than a Karen dressed up as a whiny pop star.

by Anonymousreply 7November 1, 2022 1:59 AM

R7, don't tell the deranged Taylor Stan on DL that. They think she is a gay icon.

by Anonymousreply 8November 1, 2022 2:02 AM

The metrics on this are confusing. Even if you follow the article’s link to the Hot 100, it shows Unholy by Sam Smith at #1… and no Taylor to be found, let alone 10 in the top 10.

by Anonymousreply 9November 1, 2022 2:06 AM

Boxcar Willie, Cristy Lane, Nana Mouskouri, Zamfir, Slim Whitman, Roger Whitaker and The Harmonicats have each ALL outsold Elvis AND the Beatles!

by Anonymousreply 10November 1, 2022 2:06 AM

Please note Beyonce's already begun releasing albums in the dead of summer, to maintain her personal delusions of grandeur as well as those of her Trump-like fan base.

At least Taylor released her huge seller at the height of the holiday shopping season.

by Anonymousreply 11November 1, 2022 2:08 AM

R11, you didn't like Beyonce 's big hit "Break my Ass" or whatever?

by Anonymousreply 12November 1, 2022 2:10 AM

When it comes to the music biz, Tay is the skinny, female, Millennial acoustic version of Nikki Sixx.

by Anonymousreply 13November 1, 2022 2:14 AM

OP nothing personal, but are you retarded? You type retarded.

by Anonymousreply 14November 1, 2022 2:16 AM

[quote] bitch how many top 10 billboard hit have u got?

Yes, music's entire worth can be reduced to if it went to the top 10 or not.

by Anonymousreply 15November 1, 2022 2:19 AM

Shouldn't they have only actual singles on the hot 100? Billboard has always been a racket but the last ten years they'll let every song on a big album (like Drake, Kendrick, etc.) chart on the top 100 but the Wikipedia several years later will only list the performance of the actual singles. Whatever.

by Anonymousreply 16November 1, 2022 2:21 AM

[quote] The metrics on this are confusing. Even if you follow the article’s link to the Hot 100, it shows Unholy by Sam Smith at #1… and no Taylor to be found, let alone 10 in the top 10.

The chart updates Tuesday. I think this is what we see tomorrow.

by Anonymousreply 17November 1, 2022 2:22 AM

She’s the McDonald’s of music.

by Anonymousreply 18November 1, 2022 2:24 AM

[quote] She’s the Helen Keller of music.

Fixed

by Anonymousreply 19November 1, 2022 2:29 AM

Taylor is the Greatest (closeted) Artist of all time.

Fixed it for you, OP

by Anonymousreply 20November 1, 2022 2:38 AM

None of these artists are legendary and will be footnotes in history. Taylor Swift cynically panders to white suburban upper middle-class girls with petty and childish lyrics, so that will always be an audience that has disposable income. She never matured past being a teen idol no matter how much the media pretends otherwise. So who cares? We now just have a lower standard for what is pop music today. A lot of people openly prefer listen to older stuff or foreign stuff like Kpop or Afrobeat. I also think people are rediscovering why real singing and use of instruments are important.

by Anonymousreply 21November 1, 2022 2:50 AM

She’s ambitious, smart and even brave politically. But her music and her voice are mediocre. The bar is very low right now. Her songs are the equivalent of Leslie Gores hits in the 60s. Swift just died it more often for her teenage followers. Sales do not mean art.

by Anonymousreply 22November 1, 2022 2:54 AM

R16 Michael Jackson’s death changed Billboard for the worse. They got rid of their catalog charts and integrated old albums and songs onto the main charts and it’s fucked up the charts since.

I understand having to move with the times but new artists are competing with old songs and old albums. The charts remind me of Amazon’s rank of best selling music vs actual albums and singles chart.

Artists and labels from the 90’s and 00’s never had to compete with Bob Marley’s “Legend” album or some old ass album from the 80’s.

And yes, putting non-album tracks on the charts has completely screwed up the system.

It should be official singles only.

by Anonymousreply 23November 1, 2022 2:56 AM

And yeah Taylor Swift, she has some cute songs but I don’t see her anything beyond a teeny bop singer.

She’ll be 40 and I’ll still see her as bubble gum.

by Anonymousreply 24November 1, 2022 2:58 AM

TS, Beyonce and Rihanna all have very intense fanbases that will go out of their way to buy all of their singles and albums, multiple times and tweet nonstop about them to promote any new release. They definitely seem the last of that breed of superstar as all debuted in the 2000s (technically late 90s with Beyonce) and they're still around. Even Billie Eilish and Cardi B didn't last as long as people predicted. I don't think any of them have any musical or creative genius (I give credi to TS, as she writes songs and plays guitar but really she's no more talented than any other guitarist who plays at a local coffee shop, she just has money and excellent marketing).

by Anonymousreply 25November 1, 2022 2:59 AM

Um, I like Katy Perry better.

by Anonymousreply 26November 1, 2022 3:02 AM

[quote] even brave politically.

No

by Anonymousreply 27November 1, 2022 3:03 AM

R26 Katy Perry bagged Orlando Bloom when he was still somewhat pretty, she wins.

by Anonymousreply 28November 1, 2022 3:04 AM

Katy Perry was annoying in her prime just due to being overexposed but her music will definitely age better because it wasn't pretentious and just mindless fun. She probably could get another hit album if she finds the right people.

by Anonymousreply 29November 1, 2022 3:07 AM

Just think--when Swift is Madonna's age, she'll still be releasing hit songs about dating guy X. That's pitiful as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 30November 1, 2022 3:09 AM

I could never understand the fuss over Taylor, Beyonce or Rihanna. Out of all of them I found Rihanna's music to be the most catchy I guess. Beyonce and Swift's music doesn't do much for me and I can't fathom why they are both so insanely successful. Maybe I'm just an old fogey.

by Anonymousreply 31November 1, 2022 3:09 AM

I'm a tasteless fag so of course I love Katy Perry. Her back catalogue is better than Swift's and Beyonce's (excluding Destiny's Child).

I think once everyone started celebrating Taylor as some kind of genius people were afraid to tell her that a lot of her output stinks.

by Anonymousreply 32November 1, 2022 3:10 AM

R31 Rihanna edges it for me, because she can dance well, and has unique interesting fashion tastes. Those count for a lot when you're a popstar.

by Anonymousreply 33November 1, 2022 3:12 AM

Rihanna is criticzed for her voice all the time but has Taylor ever sounded this good on a song?

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by Anonymousreply 34November 1, 2022 3:14 AM

With Beyonce, she came from a hugely popular girl group and left right when they were peaking (Justin Timberlake did the exact same move). People were hungry for more Destiny's Child and when Kelly Rowland's debut didn't hit, Beyonce's debut did coupled by her role in Austin Powers. Plus Beyonce chose the right single "Crazy in Love" which sounded extremely different at the time and the rest was history. She maintained her popularity through marketing ever since as her subsequent albums were wildly inconsistent in quality, she pushes visuals and spectacle though she is an excellent performer. But musically, she isn't influential.

by Anonymousreply 35November 1, 2022 3:15 AM

Rihanna has a unique tone that's raw and emotive. She really isn't a terrible singer at all just more undisciplined. The fact she wasn't a good performer and had a history of being unprofessional on stage hurt her reputation (though that's justified). But she does have a good versatility and can do different types of pop music. Taylor Swift and Beyonce on the other hand are both so monotone as singers. TS, I don't think anyone thinks she's a great singer. But I can't believe anyone could think Beyonce is an equal to Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston, she isn't even on par with Jazmine Sullivan or Kelly Clarkson (who are underrated as singers despite their success).

by Anonymousreply 36November 1, 2022 3:19 AM

The hot 100 if Thank u next(Ariana Grande's 2019 album) & Midnights were released the same day. Mind you, Spotify's listener base has doubled since Ariana released her album, and she had next to no promo and didn't 15 different versions of the same songs and no Tik-Tok promo, multiple TV appearances and begging fans to stream and buy her album:

#1. 7 rings(Ariana) 603 pts

#2. Break up… your girlfriend(Ariana) 514 pts

#3. Anti-Hero(Taylor) 510 pts

#4. Thank u next(Ariana) 438 pts

#5. Lavender haze(Taylor) 338 pts

by Anonymousreply 37November 1, 2022 3:22 AM

Ariana sells a lot but I don't know many of her songs. She is very talented but I feel her career was mishandled and pushing that cutesy nymphette look didn't do any favors. She can sing womanly and I think should embrace a mature image.

by Anonymousreply 38November 1, 2022 3:27 AM

Compared to her four main peers from when she came onto the scene:

1. She's less talented than Beyonce, but has better songs.

2. She's more talented than Rihanna, but Rihanna has way better pop songs.

3. She's less talented than Gaga and Gaga has better songs.

4. The entire world is more talented than Katy Perry.

Taylor's outsold them all, however. So I guess she wins.

by Anonymousreply 39November 1, 2022 3:59 AM

I like early Taylor Swift, but she bores me now. Her songs all blend in together for me. There’s nothing special about most of them or her lyrics, yet the industry continues to lavish her with praise.

by Anonymousreply 40November 1, 2022 5:54 AM

She’s like a female Ed Sheeran to me.

by Anonymousreply 41November 1, 2022 5:57 AM

Singers and bands like The Beatles, Aretha Franklin, Elvis Presley, Tina Turner, Fleetwood Mac, Amy Winehouse, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Prince, hell even Madonna, who are all much more talented and/or interesting and Taylor Swift is the first out of all the singers in the world to accomplish this. Not even Adele could do it. It is crazy that this bland, boring bitch can be THAT popular. Sometimes I don't like certain singers but I can see why they'd have appeal for other people. I can't see why so many are so drawn to her.

by Anonymousreply 42November 1, 2022 6:19 AM

Who the hell thinks she is gifted? Her voice and songs are so boring. The music company spends a ton promoting her but she is vanilla and forgettable!

by Anonymousreply 43November 1, 2022 6:23 AM

It would have been an "astounding achievement" in 2000 or 2002, when Billboard's methodology actually was designed to make this sort of thing difficult to achieve.

by Anonymousreply 44November 1, 2022 6:35 AM

R42 none of the people you mentioned except Adele (a few others have but are at the end of their careers) have released music under the new chart rules that now include streaming. With streaming counted toward chart positions and everyone able to play music on demand 24/7, Taylor has a huge advantage over the rest of your list. They only had sales and radio play counted toward charting. It's an accomplishment she can be proud of, but the rest of your list was never going to accomplish it under the old rules. I think the Beatles had 5 of the top 10 once and that was considered a rare feat.

by Anonymousreply 45November 1, 2022 6:36 AM

The thing about Taylor is yes she’s a clever songwriter but her voice is nothing special. Like I’ve never heard anyone refer to her as a great singer.

by Anonymousreply 46November 1, 2022 6:37 AM

I loathe this bitch so much.

by Anonymousreply 47November 1, 2022 6:38 AM

Drake. Kendrick Lamar and Olivia Rodrigo did something similar - landed a bunch of singles in the top ten. Has nothing to do with the songs being crazy popular or out of this world great.

They're just super big stars and they're streaming numbers are insane. Streaming has completely changed the charts.

Madonna would have done the same thing (or close to it) if streaming was around when, say, Like a Prayer was dropped. Ditto Gaga when she dropped The Fame Monster. Micheal when he dropped Bad. Bruce when he dropped Born in the USA. Etc, etc. etc.

It's cool she did it. But it's not as impressive a feat as it might seem on the surface.

I'm much more impressed with the fact she sold over a million actual units in the streaming era! I never thought we'd see that again.

by Anonymousreply 48November 1, 2022 7:16 AM

[Quote] and when Kelly Rowland's debut didn't hit,

No thanks to Bey's dad who purposely sabotaged Kelly's debut.

by Anonymousreply 50November 1, 2022 7:20 AM

[quote] Say what you will, having all ten of the top ten is a pretty astounding achievement.

Meh...it says nothing about the quality of her music, her creativity or her musicianship. It is not even a true measure of her popularity as Hot 100 placement is not about sales. It just means her crazed fanbase has nothing better to do than stream her music 24/7.

by Anonymousreply 51November 1, 2022 7:44 AM

She can't sing for shit, is mentally retarded, has zero sex appeal. Her being successful is a testament to how tragic the music landscape has become and nothing more.

by Anonymousreply 52November 1, 2022 7:47 AM

[quote] Beyonce and Swift's music doesn't do much for me and I can't fathom why they are both so insanely successful. Maybe I'm just an old fogey.

You are...

It's a bizarre comparison. They are not even of the same generation. Beyonce has been charting singles in the Top 5 of the Hot 100 for 25 years, she has already demonstrated remarkable longevity for a pop artist.

Taylor was 7 years old when Beyonce earned her first Gold single; back when certifications were based on actual sales of physical product.

by Anonymousreply 53November 1, 2022 7:58 AM

[quote] Ditto Gaga when she dropped The Fame Monster.

This reminds me that The Fame is going to overtake Like a Virgin and True Blue eventaully in the top 10 selling female albums. The reason being Lady Gaga, unlike artists prior to the 00s, released The Fame Monster EP (basically the exact same thing as a deluxe edition) so like 10 singles were released. Like A Virgin sold what it did off of 3 singles and True Blue 5.

by Anonymousreply 54November 1, 2022 2:57 PM

[R14] Well, bless your heart and by the way, I didn’t take it personally. No offense, but maybe you think I type retarded because you are illiterate. I’ll type it in a way you can understand.

TyLow Swiff bes betta den an da mo popla den Beeyonsay an da Reeanna. TyLow Swiff bes da ferse arte n da moosick hisdoorey got ntire Billboord hot. She bes fire SON. Qwaan Bee an da ReeRee an’t got dat. Dat means TyLow bes betta Son.

Beeyonsay dooo no how read cuss she bes dum. TyLow be pass Drizzy. Son.

TyLow bes GOAT. Son

Is that better, can you understand now? I often tremble when it's apparent that I've accidentally confused a person like you. People like you have been known to kill what they disagree with.

by Anonymousreply 55November 2, 2022 8:34 PM

I think this speaks more to the piss poor state of the country than to her actual talent.

by Anonymousreply 56November 2, 2022 9:15 PM

I've been listening to some old pop like Johnny Mathis, Sam Cooke, Aretha Franklin, Whitney Houston, Donna Summer, George Benson, Sarah Vaughan, Gino Vanelli, etc. That still truly is timeless in my opinion, simple stuff but the vocals are clear and rich and live instruments add intimacy.

by Anonymousreply 57November 2, 2022 9:44 PM

Lol, Beyoncé and Adele will never.

by Anonymousreply 58November 2, 2022 10:14 PM

R54, I get that. I also think, like True Blue and Virgin, The Fame Monster is one of the best pop albums of all time.

So there's that too.

by Anonymousreply 59November 2, 2022 10:25 PM

Gaga peaked so early. I don't understand why she tried so hard to be "authentic" and made so much pretentious drivel. We always knew she could sing. Plus she was so refreshing at her debut in the era of sexualized hip-hop tarts and Britney clones. She tried to go back to her electro-dance roots with Chromatica but it fell flat and you can kinda tell she didn't enjoy it.

by Anonymousreply 60November 2, 2022 10:29 PM

R60, I don't think Lady Gaga's future is really music, it's film plus soundtracks.

by Anonymousreply 61November 2, 2022 10:40 PM

Chromatica sold over 4 million albums and had a number one single (and another top 5). Her album before that, A Star is Born, has sold about 10 million. Her summer tour was one of the biggest of the year.

Is she Taylor? No. No one is. But she's still a top tier pop star. I know the DL hates her, but let's at least live in reality.

by Anonymousreply 62November 2, 2022 10:48 PM

Nobody is denying Gaga is still big. She just got boring and uninteresting and declined as an artist. But she seems to like being a Hollywood star and will continue to maintain success through film soundtracks like Cher.

by Anonymousreply 63November 2, 2022 10:50 PM

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